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Post by Willow on Feb 1, 2004 16:52:48 GMT -5
I'm with Rocky...I pity the poor cat if they get one. I even pity the goldfish....tell them nothing living!!!! Like you said...get one of those lifesize ceramic dogs, or one of those cats they have now that are made out of rabbit fur and look so real you can't tell they are wood under the fur!!! I'm allergic to cats so I bought one and have it curled up sleeping on my rocking chair. People come over and go to sit down and think they almost sat on my cat!!!!!!!! I have a perverse sense of humor and think it's funny to see the shock on their faces.
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Post by Dobemom on Feb 2, 2004 20:08:39 GMT -5
How 'bout a pet rock?
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Post by Laura on Feb 2, 2004 23:31:21 GMT -5
Nah, it needs to be dusted occasionally, too much work .
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Post by jessica on Feb 25, 2004 20:31:09 GMT -5
i trained my two pups with the positive reinforcement method. i had my shepherd trained at petsmart and my golden we did on our own. i don't really see a difference between the two. i honestly think i could have saved $90 on the training. they both are perfectly trained pups. i use "uh-uh" occasionally to refer to 'no', but it's usually all positive. i think this is a great method and my dogs learned extremely fast and there was never any negative effects.
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Post by Laura on Feb 25, 2004 22:50:26 GMT -5
Jessica, if it worked for you, then great ;D! Consider yourself blessed with two easy dogs . But the majority of dogs out there will not respond to PP and be 100% reliable in their behavior. Don't get me wrong, I've trained a few with OC and clicker only, but they were very soft dogs who responded well. Now, the Siberians I work with, they'd take your clicker, bury it in the Mariannas Trench they've just dug in your yard, and if they had fingers instead of paws, flip you the bird when finished with the above .
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Post by sibemom on Feb 26, 2004 5:43:02 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Feb 26, 2004 7:30:59 GMT -5
i trained my two pups with the positive reinforcement method. i had my shepherd trained at petsmart and my golden we did on our own. The Golden, well, that is a natural PP dog if there ever was one...as for the GSD, interesting...male/female? What is his/her background...north american or european? -Richard
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Post by amyjo on Feb 26, 2004 9:10:57 GMT -5
Jessica -
I was wondering if you proofed your dogs using distractions and if so what kind of distractions?
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Post by jessica on Feb 27, 2004 12:31:41 GMT -5
the shepherd is female. she is extremely submissive and maybe that is the reason for my easiness is training. she was number one is her class at petsmart. i've never had a problem training a dog. i have been offered numerous jobs in dog training, i am just very natural at it. not sure if raven is european or american, i'd guess american though. my mom has a 7 month old german shepherd straight from germany. i also had no problem training hers. also a female, and i trained her in their front yard. i teach a command, say it, use hand signals, treat when they do it, and use a negative 'uh uh' when they do not. maybe it's my voice they respond well to? but i've trained many dogs and taugh many tricks. never had a problems. i have heard about the huskies though. my boyfriend used to have a female and although it was his pride and joy, he said it was the most stubborn breed he'd ever come into contact with. he tried to train him and no luck. and whenever a door was opened..bye bye doggie! i'm sure his pup was also flipping him the 'paw.' as far as distractions...what do you mean exactly?
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Post by Willow on Feb 27, 2004 13:00:27 GMT -5
Jessica, are your dogs reliable off leash in places other than the back yard? Will they hold a down stay off leash, for example, while you run into a store etc. and be there when you get out? If so, I am really interested how you trained this using PP. ;D
I use *ah,ah,* usually for *no* also, as it gets their attention better.
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Post by jessica on Feb 27, 2004 13:49:30 GMT -5
well to be honest...i've never tried that we dont have a town set up where we could really do that. people are so weird about animals in public, it saddens me. but...anywhere i've tried a down stay...they never move. leash? whats that? haha i don't use one. only when i have to, such as the pet store or walking in the neighborhood where its a policy. we trained them both off of leashes and i find it a lot easier. my trainer told me that if you can do a down stay at 25 feet...your dog is great! so i went for that and they'll stay forever. i use a lot of hand signals and repeat stay. i've hidden behind trees and such, and they don't move. theres one lil secret about getting your dog to bow to you persay, but i have to run so i will post it soon.
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Post by Nicole on Feb 27, 2004 15:50:42 GMT -5
Well don't leave us hanging girl..... Now just out of curiousity, will the dog stay with one command, no reminders, if 4 dogs ran by chasing a ball, or a squirrel taunted him, or you started petting and playing with a strange dog 5 feet away, or a strange man pulled up in a big noisy truck, or a cat slinked by. These are distractions which IMO a dog needs to be motivated to ignore. By motivation, I mean that the desire to stay and the consequences of moving must outweigh the desire and instincts (prey, defense) to get up and chase the cat or squirrel, bark at the man or play with the dogs. Under these circumstances does an "ah ah" work for you? And, if the dog is chasing the cat or the squirrel or playing ball or tug with the 4 strange dogs or running after the man in the noisy truck will the dog instantly leave these things and come to you on one command. This too is distraction training and the dog's motivation to come and the consequences of not coming must outweigh his desire to continue in his activity. If the dog isn't hungry, or just doesn't want the treat, what do you do?
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Post by amyjo on Feb 27, 2004 15:55:53 GMT -5
Here is what I mean by distractions:
My dog walks at heel off leash I bounce her favorite tennis ball in front of her - she holds her heel.
Or I may put her in a down and the rest of the family will run around like idiots trying to distract her (everything is fairgame except using her name)
I throw a ball and call her back or call out a "down" in mid chase.
Does this make sense? The jist of my question was basically have you taken training these dogs to the proofing stage using only positive reinforcement? - do you know for sure they will obey in absolutely every situation?
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Post by Willow on Feb 27, 2004 17:09:27 GMT -5
The jist of my question was basically have you taken training these dogs to the proofing stage using only positive reinforcement? - do you know for sure they will obey in absolutely every situation? That's what I was trying to ask too. ;D
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Post by sibemom on Feb 27, 2004 17:23:36 GMT -5
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