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Post by Brooke on Feb 10, 2004 14:58:40 GMT -5
EXACTLY! Good point amyjo!
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Post by Willow on Feb 10, 2004 17:15:56 GMT -5
Yes, good point, Amyjo, and it's only $80 a bag if you are a *preferred customer*, don't forget! ;D Otherwise it's $100 a bag!!!!
BTW....I don't think dogs can get mad cow, can they? I don't feed them ground beef anyway. Even on sale it's over $1.00#. so I get the ground turkey, and I am still going to feed them some once in awhile.
I asked my homeopath about feeding the ground meats and/or other boneless meat if the bones you can get don't have a lot of meat on them....like the pork neck bones I get, and she said it's perfectly fine to feed other boneless meat along with the bones....so there you have it. Just like everything else. There is no hard and fast *rules* to rawfeeding as long as you are feeding a variety of meats/bones and as long as your dogs are doing o.k. on what you are feeding. I think like everything else we just need to not get so uptight about it!
As you said, Amyjo, the proof that what we are doing is right is in how much better our dogs are doing, even if we aren't doing it *exactly* the way some other's do it or think it should be done!!!
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Post by amyjo on Feb 10, 2004 17:35:12 GMT -5
Yeah - I don't know if dogs can get mad cow or not....where is our animal pathologist?
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Post by Brooke on Feb 10, 2004 17:58:04 GMT -5
I thought anything with a brain can get mad cow as long as they injest the spinal/brain fluids or tissues.
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Post by Nicole on Feb 10, 2004 19:12:23 GMT -5
Well they feed the cow parts to the chickens and some cows ate the chicken feed which is how it spread to more cows. So this leads me to conclude that chickens don't get it. Maybe they don't have a brain. So I don't know if every animal can get it but I would sure like to know. Also there was recently a huge salmonella (sp) outbreak in the northeast from raw hamburg. Something else to keep in mind.
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Post by sibemom on Feb 10, 2004 19:30:23 GMT -5
I guess I am lucky ;D My dog does not like beef. He loves his chicken leg quarters, turkey legs, ground pork and neck bones. He really has picked out his own diet, which leaves little to no guess work for me. I offer other things like the tuna, salmon, etc... but he still has his favorites and that's fine. As soon as I can I will get a picture sent to Brooke and she can post it for me. You guys will not believe how BIG this pup is getting. I have noticed MAJOR growth since he has been on raw. His coat is awsome ;D. If any of you watched the dog show last night in the working group there was a Siberian that looked exactly like Blade only it was a tad smaller. His weight right now is at 70# which is big for a sibe but he is not fat he is just a BIG BOY. He got his first 1/2 chicken last night and today he is not real hungry. With him he does his own fast, where he will eat and then back off for a day then eat like a fiend then back off etc.. I too am still going to feed the ground. I pretty much patterned his diet from Leerburg's way of feeding I don't add all the stuff that they do but I do give salmon oil. I use the grizzley and I know some say it's full of all kinds of stuff BUT I figure if Ed Frawley uses it on his very expensive GSD's and gets good results I should feel pretty safe with it. ;D
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Post by amyjo on Feb 11, 2004 8:50:27 GMT -5
Raw makes thier coats sooooo beautiful!!!! ;D
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Post by Willow on Feb 11, 2004 11:29:03 GMT -5
Chickens don't get mad cow, but they can carry it, from what I understand. Nicki this is a good question for the TAV list, whether dogs can get mad cow. ;D Amyjo...your dog (sorry, the name excapes me at present.) , looks a lot like my male BC mix, except my dog has the black/wt ticking on his legs and chest. ;D
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Post by amyjo on Feb 11, 2004 11:57:45 GMT -5
Loey - her name is Kylie she has a little ticking in the legs but you can't see it for all the MUD ....Her back feet are brown and her tail is bobbed.....ARPH says she is a tri-colored Aussie . I also call her K-bitch, K-bomb, and little bitch. Oh yeah and Desdemona which means "of the devil"
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Post by Willow on Feb 11, 2004 13:41:36 GMT -5
;D I remember you saying she was Aussie or part Aussie, and *yes* the blk/wt/brn is called *tri-color*. My BC does not have any brown and has a full, beautiful tail, but I still think he is BC/Aussie cross. His ears/face are all Aussie IMO.
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Post by Nicole on Feb 11, 2004 14:31:52 GMT -5
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Post by sibemom on Feb 11, 2004 14:35:50 GMT -5
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Post by Laura on Feb 11, 2004 21:33:10 GMT -5
Sorry guys, I haven't been keeping up too well. Yes, other animals CAN get mad moo disease, but since it can mimic about 20 other zoological diseases, you'd be hard pressed to prove that's what it actually was. BTW, I grind my own chopmeat, always have, it's that thing I have about germs popping up again ........ And not for nothin' you BARFER's on the board, if you still want to use chopmeat but are concerned about pathogens, find a kosher meat shop, chopmeat can only come from 1 place on the cow (shoulder) to be kosher, and believe you me, they run a much cleaner operation than anything the USDA sanctions .
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Post by Laura on Feb 11, 2004 21:35:15 GMT -5
And Kylie's looks beautiful (albeit a bit dirty these days!
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Post by amyjo on Feb 12, 2004 8:26:59 GMT -5
Now Laura correct me if I am wrong - but mad cow is not a "germ" right? - it is some kind of funky protien gone psycho and no amount of cooking will get rid of it - so "raw dogs" are a no greater risk than kibble fed....is this right?
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