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Post by boxerlover on Jun 25, 2004 8:49:36 GMT -5
Yesterday, I offered my dogs their very first piece of raw chicken.....I am concerned at the rate at which they ate it....they basically inhaled it...not much chewing at all. I am hesitant to give them raw meat if they are going to eat it so fast....Jack actually tried to swallow it whole at one point. Is this normal? They could not have been that hungry! They were fed their regular meal that morning. This was only a few hours later.
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Post by amyjo on Jun 25, 2004 9:15:36 GMT -5
It is normal but not really good - you can try serving it frozen so they have to work at it...or serve bigger pieces so they can't inhale. I will often stick a whole duck or turkey in the yard and give each dog a 10-15 minute whack at it. And if ya really wanna make them work serve it big AND frozen!
On a different topic you might consider not feeding them raw/kibble so close together..some think it causes bacterial overgrowth because kibble takes like 14 hours to digest and raw takes 6 - so if raw gets backed up behind the kibble, bacteria has time to multiply to troublesome levels...
Sibmom feeds kibble and raw together but the kibble she feeds doesn't "poof up" so depending on the kibble this is a personal consideration. The rawfeeding list folks wouldn't approve ;D
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Post by sibemom on Jun 25, 2004 16:15:59 GMT -5
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Post by Willow on Jun 25, 2004 16:42:29 GMT -5
Speaking of bacteria...Someone posted on another list I am on that she is new to rawfeeding and read the stuff on "bacteria" in raw meats and is concerned...
Someone ans'd her and said the information she read was incomplete, because the study she was talking about actually went on to say that there was more bacteria in the KIBBLE tested than the raw meat they tested.
Some people will go to any lengths to "prove" their point.
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Post by sibemom on Jun 25, 2004 18:16:47 GMT -5
I believe that there probably is more bacteria in the kibble, even if it says human grade ingrediants. Nothing builds more bacteria than something that is processed. I have found and read that during the processing the natural enzyemes are killed off, and the enzymes themselves actually prevent certain bacteria's from forming. I never believed all that bunk about raw meat and bacteria where dogs were concerned. Thinking back and remembering what our farm dogs use to eat if that was the case they should have been dead long before they were. VIVA LA RAW we will be back to it soon.
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Post by Aussienot on Jun 26, 2004 2:35:31 GMT -5
Finn inhales his chicken too, and the side-effects are not pretty to watch.
Sailor seems to enjoy the violent act of "crunching", so while on kibble she was an absolute food hoover, on raw she is pretty much safe with anything.
So I feed to the lowest common denominator - wings, which can be inhaled without penalty.
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Post by Nicole on Jun 26, 2004 6:43:45 GMT -5
I will often stick a whole duck or turkey in the yard and give each dog a 10-15 minute whack at it.
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Post by amyjo on Jun 26, 2004 7:34:04 GMT -5
What? ;D Perhaps I should clarify..when I say whole I mean fresh out of the plastic wrapper whole...not still gobbling or quacking whole.
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Post by boxerlover on Jun 26, 2004 8:07:00 GMT -5
Finn inhales his chicken too, and the side-effects are not pretty to watch. Sailor seems to enjoy the violent act of "crunching", so while on kibble she was an absolute food hoover, on raw she is pretty much safe with anything. So I feed to the lowest common denominator - wings, which can be inhaled without penalty. What penalties should I be watching for???
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Post by Willow on Jun 26, 2004 9:13:05 GMT -5
The Rawfeeding list says wings are not appropriate to feed adult dogs, nor are necks. Too much bone vs. meat, and dogs who swallow whole are more apt to choke on wings/necks, therefore, "bigger is better", because they can not swallow whole, but have to gnaw it off the bone.
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Post by fireworksinjuly on Jun 28, 2004 9:21:36 GMT -5
I would love to fed my baby a raw diet, and I plan to once money in my house get better, its a little expensive for a full time college student working also to pay for.
But I do feed it to him when he seems sick. I.e.-Some de-workming meds made him vomit a lot so he got a raw died for a few days....
but my question was..he didnt poop...at all for those three days and into late the next night, is this normal?
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Post by amyjo on Jun 28, 2004 9:25:25 GMT -5
If it was heavy on the bone it could have caused a slow down...was the poop kinda dry and crumbly when it did come out?
But nope not poopin for three days isn't really normal on any diet.
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Post by fireworksinjuly on Jun 28, 2004 10:02:48 GMT -5
No once the poop did come back out it was normal. I tryed not to leave too many bones in it.
I wonder if Cuz he vomited out soo much before I started the chicken that his body was somewhat compensating for it.
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Post by Willow on Jun 28, 2004 19:15:29 GMT -5
I wonder if Cuz he vomited out soo much before I started the chicken that his body was somewhat compensating for it. I'm sure that was it. I have had my dogs not go for awhile after a bout of diarrhea/and or vomiting. When you feed the raw chicken, what kind is it? It's best to give a leg or theigh and leave the bone in. They need the bone too.
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