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Post by willow on Jun 30, 2005 10:13:28 GMT -5
Ann, I totally agree with you on this, and another thing besides what you have pointed out, is:
How many "normal" dogs do we have to "sacrifice" to rehabilitate this one dog?
Ms. Donaldson gave me great concern because of her matter of fact attitude about ABI, fight kits, and the possibility that even bomb proof dogs could get hurt or that there could be what she called "'fear conditioning' even in the absence of a damaging bite.'''
While I realize what she wrote is a fact of life, dogs become aggressive, attack other dogs or people and inflict serious wounds, my question is:
Why on earth would anyone who professes to love dogs purposely subject a "normal" dog to this abuse in this manner for the sake of an aggressive dog and education?
I suppose you could say that "some have to be "sacrificed" for the sake of the masses", but another question I have then, is:
Why is aggression becoming more of a problem in spite of all the behaviorists out there telling us what causes it and how to "fix" it?
Yes, we wish we could "save them all", and perhaps some day we will be able to, but until that day, I agree with you.
There are so many sweet loving dogs put down every day by the hundreds simply because they cannot find loving homes or rescues who have the room to take them. Must we and more importantly should we sacrifice even one of them for a dog like this?
I don't have to answer that. Common sense should prevail, but sadly that is becoming a thing of the past also.
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Post by Nicole on Jun 30, 2005 17:28:24 GMT -5
I suppose you could say that "some have to be "sacrificed" for the sake of the masses", This has always bothered me. The whole sacrifice the few for the many. That is a Kantian society which we don't live in otherwise we would terminate any person who is a drain on or who does not contribute to society. Yet when it comes to dogs, that is the philosophy we follow with regard to certain issues. It is most apparent in the puppy mill pup and pet store pup. Don't save the pup so we can do a greater good by stopping the practice. I am just pointing this out. I don't have the answer. I personally would not risk screwing up one dog to save another. That is almost like forcing someone to give a kidney to save another person. We just don't do that in our society.
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Post by willow on Jun 30, 2005 19:26:10 GMT -5
Andy has been put down. He was assessed as being, "One bad Dude". Sheri said he was also a very "pushy" dog, (never taught manner's) and would keep trying to crawl into her lap. When she made him get down, he would give her his icy stare, and she said she thought this dog very capable of and probably would have eventually attacked her, and even though he was wearing the muzzle at all times, it greatly unnerved her.
Sheri told me just from what the shelter told her about him, she felt she would have to put him down, because as she said, she would not subject her dogs to him, nor expect anyone else to, and she felt he was unadoptable, but because there are dogs who are aggressive in a shelter situation, but perfectly wonderful dogs when taken out of that environment, she had to give him that chance.
Yes, my heart breaks for him and for every dog like him but my heart breaks more for all the dogs the "Andy's" of the world have injured or prevented from being saved, because an Andy was taking space in a home/foster home they could have been in.
I give Sheri credit for weighing out the options and coming up with the best solution for Andy as well as all other creatures that may have crossed his path.
Believe me, I am shedding tears for him as I write this.
Rest in Peace, Andy.
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Post by sibemom on Jun 30, 2005 20:17:00 GMT -5
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Post by Brooke on Jun 30, 2005 20:42:04 GMT -5
Brooke, no need to apologize and I did not take offense. How could I when I am guilty of purposely giving a dig now and then! (Now I wouldn't do that, would I? ) I really didn't mean it that way though! I was rambling. Oh well... as long as no one is mad... ;D
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Post by willow on Jul 1, 2005 9:30:49 GMT -5
No of course not! I really didn't think you meant it like that, but just wanted to make sure. ;D
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Post by Laura on Jul 25, 2005 23:35:05 GMT -5
Loey, I'm so sorry I didn't see this sooner , I'm so sorry for all involved. That's the toughest decision anyone ever has to make, but once Andy showed even the slightest hint of human aggression, I would have made the same decision, as hard as it would have been. Poor Andy, it sounds like he was an all around irreparable headcase from the getgo, godspeed over the bridge, pup .
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