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Post by Summer Magic on Jan 14, 2006 20:43:51 GMT -5
I have enrolled Magic and myself in a radical recall class. It's going to be her first encounter with a group session. All other training has been done by me. I'm really excited about how she'll react because we have been working on her games all week. Of course she doesn't realize she gets to go along with me this time. I'm anxious to see how she does.
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Post by Aussienot on Jan 14, 2006 22:31:49 GMT -5
What is the "radical" part of the recall class? I would like to know more about it. Good luck anyway. It's a great chance to get out and do nothing exepct focus on your dog. Group classes are always interesting because of the dynamics between the dogs. For most dogs, Other Dogs is the biggest distractions available. If I heard it once, I've heard it a thousand times: "He's NOT like this at home".
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Post by Summer Magic on Jan 15, 2006 6:22:04 GMT -5
According to the instructor, it's a command you teach them to come immediately for the safety of the dog when off leash. I usually say Magic come, and she complies but at her own pace. But this command will be MAGIC HERE! and she will come on the run.
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Post by sibemom on Jan 15, 2006 9:22:28 GMT -5
That is interesting I have never heard of such a class Now I am not poo pooing this believe me I just find it a bit amusing ;D I think it's great that you are going to this group class because of the things you stated in your other post, but I guess I find it odd that they call it RADICAL I think you should really look at the difference in the verbal command. When I teach the recall I expect MOVEMENT NOW, and I think, and again I could be wrong, but by reading what you said about them teaching HERE, rather than just COME, they are training YOU It's all about the firm tone and confident verbalization that makes the difference. If I say Brody Come, in a firm tone he comes no problem, but if I AMPLIFY THAT by saying BRODY HERE, in a firmer tone with a bit of a growl HE RUNS TO ME do you understand what I am trying to get at 8-)RECALL is RECALL no matter what words you use, once the dog is proofed and even with my own all I have to say is HEY, and then run to me, so this class is teaching YOU to be firm and consistant with calling your dog. Still a great method but again I don't see it being all that radical.
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Post by Nicole on Jan 15, 2006 11:19:58 GMT -5
You know, I have actually done something similar with Sunny and also with Reign. Except I use COME as the safety word. I have never ever used the command come under situations where I could not enforce it. For us, it is an emergency command and we continue to train often under many types of distractions to keep it fresh. For other situations I use other commands which Sunny happily complies with at his own pace and if he blows me off it isn’t the end of the world because I KNOW that he will come if I said COME. I use get over here...follow me...lets go etc. for any situation that I can’t enforce. He will come with the come command 100% of the time quickly. I remember once with Reign, his favorite doggy friend came to the front door with his owner and my brother opened the door. Reign is not a door bolter and I think he thought he was being let out to play. I said COME and he ran right back inside. I had trained him the same way as Sunny. He never ever had an opportunity to not comply with a recall. That is the key IMO to a reliable recall. I hope they have the same philosophy at your class. Because once the dog thinks he has an option, it is pretty much back to square one and there will be unreliability. You are also right Ann because there most certainly is a different tone...one of authority that sends the message that you have no choice, you must obey, this is serious... in my voice. If I had an e-collar I would take it a step further and proof with the e-collar. I am comfortable though with his response at this stage. I am considering getting an e-collar though to give us more freedom.
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