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Post by ScarletSpider on Apr 27, 2005 1:42:55 GMT -5
I live in Alaska and have a 1.5 yr old Husky mix. We were unable to walk him much of last summer because of the wildfires....and Im too selfish to walk him in -40 degree winters....
He was good as a puppy, but its been so long and he gets so excited that hes a puller! I cant decide between the choke collar or pronged collar. I know I need something. His normal collar he wigles his way out of and his harness just enables him to drag me around. Any advice is greatly appreciated, by me and my Yukon!
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Post by sibemom on Apr 27, 2005 7:42:46 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Apr 27, 2005 9:11:44 GMT -5
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Post by Tammi21 on Apr 27, 2005 15:39:54 GMT -5
Wow this helps me out a lot. My dog pulled so much that yesterday she broke her leash when we were at the park, she almost broke my arm too. She is a 38 lb dog and the leash was for 100lbs. Needles to say I was a little shocked when it happed.  Maybe I could get a prong collar to help me until I can get some training for her.  |
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Post by Am on Apr 27, 2005 19:42:07 GMT -5
And maybe you could get a refund on your leash!?!  |
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Post by Tammi21 on Apr 27, 2005 20:04:02 GMT -5
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Post by Brooke on Apr 27, 2005 22:55:18 GMT -5
Wow this helps me out a lot. My dog pulled so much that yesterday she broke her leash when we were at the park, she almost broke my arm too. She is a 38 lb dog and the leash was for 100lbs. Needles to say I was a little shocked when it happed. Maybe I could get a prong collar to help me until I can get some training for her. DEFINATE pinch collar candidate...  |
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Post by Aussienot on Apr 30, 2005 18:49:18 GMT -5
For the average owner with a puller, the choke chain is the Worst Possible choice of collar. Low probability of success in ending the pulling, and guaranteed trachea damage.
The prong will stop the pulling with a minimum of training, and will allow you both to enjoy pleasurable walks. Go the prong.
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Post by Tammi21 on Apr 30, 2005 21:33:42 GMT -5
I have never used a prong or choke collar. Here is a question, what was the choke made for?  |
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Post by Aussienot on May 1, 2005 0:45:09 GMT -5
It's a training collar for the express use of delivering corrections. Outside of the US, the choke chain is called a check chain, which is more illustrative of it's proper use. It circles the base of the neck with two or three inches of slack. This slack is used to provide a leash "pop" to correct unwanted behavior. In proper use, the collar is never tightened. If the dog starts to pull, before he's at the end of the leash, the handler gives a "pop" correction which brings the dog back. The pop tightens the collar for a split seconds, then releases it. There should never be any leash pressure, and the dog should feel the weight of the collar, but only flashes of the tightness.
In reality, most handlers let the dog pull at the end of the check chain. The constant leash pressure keeps the collar at maximum tightness, hence the name choke chain. Very few ever learn the proper method of delivering and timing an effective correction. Even when corrections are properly given, all of the force of the correction hits the front of the neck where the leash latches onto. This one area is prone to bruising or permantly damaging the trachea. If the dog is constantly leaning into the collar, the collar is constantly tight and the trachea is constantly under the pressure of the dog's pull weight.
The prong is also called the pinch collar, which again is more descriptive of how it is used. It sits high up on the neck around the ears, where it is possible to correct with a minimum of force. Again, a pop correction is used, which delivers a pinching correction dispersed around the neck. This mimics the mother dog pinching her pups as a correction, which is more easily understood by the dog. There are a 20 or more posts here about the use and fitting of the prong, and the pros and cons. Also posts on how to teach walking without pulling.
It is possible to teach walking without pulling without using a pinch collar. It's much harder and slower and much more difficult. I did it with Finn because I had no choice at that time, but it took about a month of concentrated effort.
With a pinch collar it would take about ten minutes, tops, and both dog and handler will be much happier.
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Post by Tammi21 on May 1, 2005 15:40:42 GMT -5
Thax Aussienot.
I know that my dog would just hurt herself with a choke chain. I have ben trying to get her not to pull.
And I think I will get it dun eventually. But I would like to try the pinch collar.
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