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Post by Tammi21 on Oct 8, 2005 16:55:29 GMT -5
Hi I have a question. I called my vet today, because Jetta was acting like her tail was hurt. And the vet thinks it will be fine, I just gave her some aspirin, well we got to talking about Jetta’s diet. And I told the truth, big mistake. Aside form the normal dog-food, I give Jetta raw whenever I can. Like chicken necks, breasts and raw beef bones. And I would feed her raw all the time, but we don’t have anyplace to buy the food in bulk. Well anyway the vet went on and on, about how dogs can’t digest bones and especially chicken bones. And yes I did try and tell her that I only give raw bones but I didn’t want to get into a debate about it so I was just said ok. So my question is, should I just lie about it and say I’m not feeding raw, if it comes up again. Because this is the only vet office in town and I don’t want to piss them off. And do you have any problems with your vet like this?
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Post by FlatCoatedLover on Oct 8, 2005 17:24:29 GMT -5
I would find another vet. I would not want to go to a healthcare professional that was not on the same page as me about the care and feeding of my pets. I do not want a fight everytime I go to the vet nor do I want to hide something from them that can effect their health. I would not want to deal with the fact that if something was wrong that he would imeadiately blame raw food. It seems rediculus that a vet would be so uneducated about the proper diet for a carnivore.
Where in PA are you? Are you close to NY or MA? There is are some great raw feeding co-ops up that way. If you are interested in how you can contact them drop me a PM.
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Post by Aussienot on Oct 8, 2005 18:13:40 GMT -5
I was honest with my vet when I started feeding raw. It took a heap of courage, but luckily he supported it once he was comfortable with the fact that I was well informed on what to do.
I would have serious concerns about the vet's understanding of dog nutrition with a statement like: " dogs can’t digest bones and especially chicken bones".
But pragmatically, if you don't have a choice of vets, I'd keep quiet about my dog's diet.
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Post by Tammi21 on Oct 8, 2005 20:05:01 GMT -5
I would not want to deal with the fact that if something was wrong that he would immediately blame raw food.Wow that’s a good point. I didn’t think of that. Where in PA are you? Are you close to NY or MA? There is are some great raw feeding co-ops up that way. If you are interested in how you can contact them drop me a PM.I’m about seven hours away from NY and about three or four hours from MA. I was honest with my vet when I started feeding raw. It took a heap of courage, but luckily he supported it once he was comfortable with the fact that I was well informed on what to do.
I would have serious concern's about the vet's understanding of dog nutrition with a statement like: " dogs can’t digest bones and especially chicken bones". The more I think about it, the more I remember things that kinda bugged me about this vet office. For one thing they are very pushy about selling you there dog food. I looked at it, and the very first ingredient was corn. I just said no, think you, but the vet kept on and on about how good it was. The next time we were there he didn’t remember Jetta at all, which I can understand. But when the vet was checking her out, he said he was impressed with how healthy she looked. I was like yeah I don’t give her any junk food. But pragmatically, if you don't have a choice of vets, I'd keep quiet about my dog's diet. I'm about I’m going to look into going to a vet that is about 35 minutes away. But I sill don’t want to burn any bridges.
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Post by FlatCoatedLover on Oct 8, 2005 20:28:20 GMT -5
There is a yahoo group called Carnivore Feed-Supplier ( groups.yahoo.com/group/CarnivoreFeed-Supplier/) You can post on there what you are looking and other people in the area will post ideas where they get stuff and sometimes actual suppliers will post also.
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Post by Tammi21 on Oct 8, 2005 21:52:57 GMT -5
Cool thank you!
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Post by sibemom on Oct 9, 2005 6:36:37 GMT -5
YEP find another vet. I went through a battle with my vet at first untill I BEAT HIM OVER THE HEAD to look at the problems I was having with Blade where his diet was concerned. Finally he gave in and started researching what I was telling him. He apologized to me about bashing my diet of choice for him and has now been a wonderful asset to us for Willow and Brody. The reason vets take the stand that RAW is bad is because in vet school they are brain washed into thinking that the only correct way to feed a dog is to buy kibble. They know better because if they are truley learning about canine physiology then they should know that a dog is a meat eater. I get very angery with vets who are so closed minded that they think the only good way to feed a dog is to buy the CRAP they sell in their office. So yes run from this vet and run fast. If he has no respect for your choices on how to care for your dogs dietary needs then he will be of no use to you.
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Post by Laura on Oct 9, 2005 13:37:35 GMT -5
I told my vet what kind of diet they're on after he commented for the 20th time how great they looked and how did I keep their teeth so clean. Much to his credit, he didn't say a word to me, and promised to research it himself (and this was quite a few years ago), and he now uses it as a starting point to eliminate allergies. But go figure, the office still sells Science Death .
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Post by Tammi21 on Oct 9, 2005 14:35:27 GMT -5
Thank you all, for the advice.
I wonder, what do the vet universitys teach? Do they tell them that dogs are completely different from wolves? Or do they say that wolves have their own gardens? LOL
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Post by Aussienot on Oct 10, 2005 4:09:36 GMT -5
In Australia, the major world brand pet food companies underwrite some of the university expenses for veterinarians. They provide financial incentives to stock their line of food, award prizes and bonuses for sales, sponsor veterinary industry events . . . essentially, they buy the vets' slavish cooperation. On the raw side, there is no money to be made. The raw diet is very threatening to pet food manufacturers. In fact, it was pet food industry pressure that caused the Australian Veterinary Association to strip the practicing license of Tom Lonsdale, one of the strident proponents of raw, when he kept insisting on bring raw onto the AVA agenda. Of course, it's probably much more ethical and about the animals interest in the US . . .
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Post by Tammi21 on Oct 11, 2005 12:56:23 GMT -5
Of course, it's probably much more ethical and about the animals interest in the US I wouldn't be so sure about that.
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