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Post by barefaced on Jan 20, 2005 20:35:11 GMT -5
I've been reading a few threads about using a clicker. Could someone tell me what this is about please. Thanks.
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Post by Laura on Jan 20, 2005 22:54:37 GMT -5
Clickre training is a form of operant conditioning. If you've ever had basic Psychology, you might have learned about Pavlov and his drooling dogs ;D that's what OP is based on. To break it down into the simplest concept, Pavlov would ring a bell and introduce food to the dog. Subsequently, the dog will start to drool when the bell is rung, but no food is presented. Today's clickers are used as a marker for desired behavior. For more info on clickers, here is a link to Dr. P's training library, a great source of info . www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/obed.htm#click
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Post by Kona on Jan 21, 2005 3:08:25 GMT -5
Actually, Pavlov's experiment was an example of classical conditioning, not operant conditioning. Classical conditioning forms an association between two stimuli. Operant conditioning forms an association between a behavior and a consequence. But to answer your question, barefaced, clicker training is a wonderful technique that uses an auditory signal to mark an animal's good behavior, after you have taught the animal to associate the sound with something positive. Karen Pryor is considered to be one of the pioneers of the field, and here is a short article that she just wrote this month, qouted from her website [ www.clickertraining.com ]. What is Clicker Training? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by: Karen Pryor 01.05 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The click is a marker signalClicker training is a science-based system for teaching behavior with positive reinforcement. You use a marker signal (the sound of a toy clicker) to tell the animal (or person) when it's doing the action that will pay off. The system was first widely used by dolphin trainers who needed a way to teach behavior without using physical force. No corrections or punishment requiredIn traditional training, you tell an animal or person what to do, make that behavior happen (using force if necessary), reward good results, and punish mistakes. In clicker training you watch for the behavior you like, mark the instant it happens with a click, and pay off with a treat. The treat may be food, a pat, praise, or anything else the learner enjoys. If the learner makes a mistake all you do is wait and let them try again. Replacing the clicker with praiseClicker trainers focus on building behavior, not stopping behavior. Instead of yelling at the dog for jumping up, you click it for sitting. Instead of kicking the horse to make it go, you click it for walking. Then, click by click, you "shape" longer sits, or more walking, until you have the final results you want. Once the behavior is learned, you keep it going with praise and approval and save the clicker and treats for the next new thing you want to train. It's fun and exciting for pets and people Dogs and other animals quickly learn that the marker signal means, "Something good is coming." Then they realize they can make you click by repeating their behavior. They become enthusiastic partners in their own training. In people, clicking reduces the need for correction and is especially useful for training physical skills. Clicker training is exciting for animals and fun for us. And it's easy to do. You might get results on the very first try. [edited for grammar]
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Post by Laura on Jan 23, 2005 4:49:37 GMT -5
You're correct, my bad, Pavlov is CC not OC . I'm old school trained (and just plain old) with Koehler, and I should know the difference. I'm overtired and for some reason seeing your screen name makes me want to drink even more coffee ;D.
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Post by BeTrue on Jan 23, 2005 10:59:00 GMT -5
Clickers are SO much fun! www.clickertraining.com has a whole bunch of advice, wether its teaching your dog to walk loosely on leash, or if you just want to teach some new tricks! Oh, and I also recommend reading up on it as much as you can before 'trying' it out. A lot of beginners (like myself ;D ) make mistakes since theres a lot to learn at first. And, of course, the dogs are very forgiving and usually learn wether you know 'all the rules' or not. But things are much quicker and easier if you understand what your doing and where the commands are going.
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Post by Kona on Jan 23, 2005 23:59:45 GMT -5
Funny, Laura. I had quite a bit of Koehler's techniques as part of my original training, too. Lately I've been working with an amazing clicker trainer, and that has caused me to break out the books and do a bit of re-educating myself.
*pours Laura a cuppa joe*
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Post by ladyarya on Jan 25, 2005 17:42:14 GMT -5
I've never tried clicker training, but I've been hearing so much about it I'm now looking into it. I am curious how this works with two dogs. As in, lets say you're walking them and one is walking really well and the other isn't. My assumption is you'd want to click for the dog who is walking well, but won't the one who isn't think the clicking is for him too?
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Post by BeTrue on Jan 26, 2005 0:10:13 GMT -5
I've heard some people use two different types of clickers. Different brands have different sounds. You can put names on the different clickers and use only one per dog.
But, in my opinion, dogs learn to distinguish the click. I know when I was trianing two golden retriever puppies to shake at the same time (experiments are always fun ;D ), I only clicked the pup who put his paw in my hand, and only treated him. The other one was ignored unless he put his paw on me as well.
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Post by Brooke on Mar 24, 2005 22:10:09 GMT -5
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